Q vs Bruce Bowen
As a corollary to the Maggette-festo, some have chosen to place thier hatred on Quinton Ross. I can't say that I understand this, but I will say that I do understand that some are still failing to look at the situation with cold, rational eyes and are still seeing the situation through the eyes of a fan. I can't fault a person for that; not everyone has my gift of lacking feelings. One thing that comes up again and again is that MDSr. has been wrong about Ross' abilities, specificially in comparison to Bruce Bowen as part of an implied dream of making the Clippers more Spurs like.
So let's do the rational thing and compare their seasons head to head.
Bowen plays more minutes than Q, so per game and per season totals aren't really interesting, at least to thinking folk. Let's focus on the per48 numbers and PER.
Quinton Ross is better than Bruce Bowen in the following per48 minute or non-time dependent stats: FG%, FT%, ORB, TRB, STL, BLK, TO, PTS and PER.
Bruce Bowen is better than Quinton Ross in the following per48 minute or non-time dependent stats: 3P%, PF.
The following categories are functional ties: TS%, DRB, AST.
I've bolded TS% because this is important to the discussion that Bowen has a better 3P%. This is clearly undeniable. He takes alot more 3's and he makes them at a better clip. But here is how TS% is calculated: PTS / (2*(FGA + (0.44*FTA)). TS% attempts to take into account your 3P%, your 2P%, and your FT% and (along with AST and TO) tells us what happens when you get the ball.
Here's what happens: They get a similar number of assists, they score a similar number of points when they look to score (despite obviously very different O games), and Q turns it over less. Given that MDSr. is often credited with inventing the idea of eFG%, I'm sure these advanced stats are not lost on him. Q also gets you more steals, blocks and rebounds by hitting the offensive glass.
The only conclusion a rational person can come to is that Dunleavy isn't wrong about Q, he's more than right. Comparing apples to apples, last season Q was at worst exactly the same as Bowen, if not moderately better.
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Good stuff...
One last ClipperSteve addendum to this thread: When I look at Q, I think about Michael Cooper of the Showtime Lakers, and I wonder if Q could add a three point shot to his arsenal. Michael Cooper made a total of 16 threes his first 5 seasons in the NBA. He then turned himself into one of the best three point shooters in the league, making 89 of 231 in 86-87. I know they look mild by today's standards, but trust me, those were really big numbers 20 years ago. Coop was second in the league in threes to Larry Bird's 90. He was 8th in percentage. Obviously it would be too much to ask for a top 10 three point specialist in Q, but my point is that it is a skill that can be developed.
He's stuck in the offense
In this season requiring testing out new things, I'd like to see him chuck at least 25 through 15 games (within the offense) and see where he's at.
I remember that one
by mp on Aug 21, 2007 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he can make them
Mobley should definitely take more. In fact, the whole team should take more, with the exception of Thomas who knows his role. It would actually be an interesting way to go this season (if Kaman can be counted on to force some doubles, and to effectively pass out of them, big IFS I realize): spread the floor and shoot the friggin' ball. What's the worst that can happen? They'll lose 50 games? Well, guess what?
by Steve Perrin on Aug 21, 2007 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Bowen also has a great advantage
Q is often charged with having hide Sam or Maggette on the defensive end. His rotations are usually flawless. I have seen instances where he covers his spot and another guys spot on the same play. He does an admirable job one on one against most scorers, but he really shines as a team defender.
by mp on Aug 16, 2007 10:18 PM PDT reply actions

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