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The Wild, Wild West

As you are no doubt aware, the Clippers were in the NBA Draft Lottery tonight for the 11th time in the last 13 years.  It was a familiar scene, with about the only difference being the presence of MDsr in the chair where we're used to seeing the original EB and his Cosbillian sweaters.

All fans (with the obvious exceptions of San Antonio and Orlando) no doubt feel like they've had bad luck in the lottery and Clipper fans are no different.  However, it's not so much the Clippers' lottery luck as the Clippers' lottery timing that has been devastatingly bad over the last 13 years.

In 11 lotteries, the Clippers have improved their position 3 times, fallen further in the draft 4 times, and remained the same 4 times.  Pretty unremarkable.  But the drafts in which the Clippers have moved up were exceedingly weak.  Meanwhile, the times that can't miss franchise players have been available, the Clippers were not in a position to draft them.  For instance, in 2002 the Clippers finished with the 5th worst record in the league.  One team below them (the Pistons, using the Grizzlies pick) moved ahead of them.  The Clippers ended up with the 6th pick - meanwhile, the first, third, fourth and fifth picks from that draft all made the All Star Game and All-NBA this year.  Chris Kaman at 6 looks like a pretty good pick (or he did until this year at least); but Dwyane Wade at 5 looks a little better.

The one time the Clippers moved up into the first overall pick, they ended up with Michael Olowokandi.  Now it's all well and good to criticize Elgin Baylor et al for that historically bad pick with the benefit of hindsight, but probably 28 out of 29 GM's would have picked him there.  Far and away the best player in that draft (Dirk Nowitzki) was taken with the 9th pick, and Don Nelson was able to trade DOWN to draft him there.  Vince Carter at 5 and Paul Pierce at 10 are clearly better picks than the Kandi Man, but they were both picked after Kandi and Raef LaFrentz.  It simply wasn't a clear cut case of franchise players available.

The Clippers odds of moving up into a top 3 position in this draft were very long - one half of 1 percent for the number one pick, slightly better for the number 2, all the way up to ¾ of one percent for the third pick.  In other words, there was a greater than 98% chance that the Clippers stayed right where they were at 14.  And the fact that this is one of the great drafts in recent memory, with at least two can't miss franchise players available, made it a lead pipe cinch.  

So I wasn't hoping for much.  It's a deep draft, and we'll just have to hope for the best at 14.

But I wasn't really expecting this either.

In an NBA where the top 6 or 7 teams already play in the West, where the worst 6 or 7 teams play in the East, two non-playoff teams in the Western Conference just landed Greg Oden and Kevin Durant.  So not only do the Clippers have to pass someone to get back into the playoffs next season, they have to fend off two suddenly loaded teams from the Pacific Northwest.  I realize that the season hasn't started, but it's not a stretch to say that several Western Conference teams that will miss the playoffs next season would be hosting first round games in the East.  The only good news is that the Hawks held onto their own pick in the top three, keeping it out of the hands of the talented Suns for now.  But truthfully, the Suns aren't going anywhere, and that pick is going to end up with them eventually, so it's small consolation.

Seriously, look at these NON PLAYOFF Western Conference squads:  Kevin Garnett and the Timberwolves, Elton Brand and the Clippers, Pau Gasol and the Grizzlies, Ray Allen and (probably) Kevin Durant and the Sonics, Zach Randolph and (probably) Greg Oden and the Blazers - these guys are loaded for bear.  

Is it time to re-align yet?

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Abolish the conferences
Olowakandi was a great pick...the obvious pick.  It is my understanding that then Asst. Coach Alvin Gentry quickly realized that Kandi couldn't play, and implored Baylor to trade him before anyone found out.  We know the rest of the story there.

The Clippers worked Wade out and loved him in 2003. They surely would have taken him at 6 were he there.  Detroit missed bad in that draft, yet it has not hurt them in the least.  I would take Tayshaun Prince over Carmelo.  

I thought the same thing about Oden and Durant going up north.  Will totally change that division.  Oden has to be the number one.  He is a sure thing.  I think that Seattle, with Allen, Lewis and Durant, will be quite fun to watch. You forgot to mention New Orleans in your west teams that were left out.  And SAC can still be dangerous.  Basically, there will be no easy games out west next year.

by mp on May 22, 2007 10:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Sacto and the Lakers...
...once the proud rulers of the Pacific Division and the Western Conference, currently appear to be the only Western teams not on the rise.  Unfortunately, the Clippers would probably be third on that list.    Seattle still has to re-sign Lewis, or they may choose not to since he is redundant with Durant.  Can they get something for him in a sign and trade?

by Steve Perrin on May 22, 2007 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah
Hopefully Maggette.  If the Clippers couldn't win the lottery, having Lewis become that much more available was the second best outcome as far as I'm concerned.  Get on the horn EB I.

by John R on May 23, 2007 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Weird
None of the tanking teams were rewarded.
The historic franchises in immediate financial situations (relocation, profitability, etc.) get the 1 and 2.  There was a like a 0.5% chance of this result.

Oh man.  A better outcome couldn't have been written if someone was doing it on purpose.

by John R on May 23, 2007 9:42 AM PDT reply actions  

be thankful you're not a celtics fan
I live in Boston, so I watch Celtics games pretty regularly and visit celticsblog.com every now and then.  Literally, the sky is f'ing falling for Celtics fans.  Personally, I think the team got what it deserved after tanking at the end of the season (and after Dallas screwed us I hate tanking even more), but talk about your all time knife twists.  The Clippers have been mediocre due mostly to their own ineptitude, but between Bias and Lewis dying, missing out on Duncan, enduring Pitino and Ainge's general manager tenures, and now missing Oden and Durant, I have to pity Celtics fans at least a little.  I mean you KNOW it's bad if you get pity from a Clippers fan.

by spartacus on May 23, 2007 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

First of all...
Obviously you did not read my post of 1/21/07 where I made it very clear that I dislike the misuse of the word 'literally'.  I checked the Weather Channel, and it made no mention of this falling sky in Boston thing.  

As for the C's, it is certainly true that the Bias and Lewis tragedies were devastating.  I mean, how many active NBA players have died in the last 30 years?  Malik Sealy, Bobby Phills, Drazen Petrovich... anyone else?  And two of them were Celtics, the number overall pick and an all star at that.

I do not however subscribe to the 'we wuz robbed'  logic concerning Duncan.  For one thing, the Grizzlies actually had a worse record than the C's in 96-97 (and this season as well).  So in point of fact, the Grizzlies 'wuz robbed' of Duncan (and now of Oden/Durant) - the C's missed out on Keith Van Horn (sadly, the consensus consolation prize in that draft).  Ironically, they ended up with Chauncey Billups, a much better player than KVH, but couldn't figure out what they had.

And as you mention, the tanking was a little blatant, and karma has a way of catching up.

If you look at the history of the lottery, there are probably 26 teams who feel wronged - basically everybody except the Spurs, Magic, Rockets and Cavs.  

Last point - Reggie Lewis died 14 years ago.  Len Bias died in the 80's.  The C's were in the Eastern Conference finals in 2002.  Isn't it time that Boston fans move on?  

I need to write a letter to Bill Simmons.

by Steve Perrin on May 23, 2007 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Literally speaking
Don't get me wrong, the Celtics sense of entitlement has always been blatant.  Winning 16 odd championships will do that to you, I suppose.  I still feel for Celtics FANS in Boston.  Sure, most of them are assholes, but as a Clippers fan I know how it feels when your team is making boneheaded moves left and right and stuck in mediocrity (or worse).  And when the Clips were tanking games last season to play Denver, I was pissed to no end, so I can certainly understand how crappy it must have been to endure 2 whole seasons of that bullshit.

As for your literal post, I do indeed remember that.  I was in a bar last night watching the Sox/Yankees and the draft and after the logo slipped out of that fifth envelope, I've never seen so much beer flying through the air in my entire life.  That's what happens when a bunch of depressed, drunken people get their last leg shot out from underneath them.  You know what they say about what goes up...

And don't humor Bill Simmons.

by spartacus on May 23, 2007 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've had enough of freaking Boston
and their inferiority.  Shut up already.

by mp on May 23, 2007 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chiiiiiill, Winston!
What's the deal here, buddy?  Getting a little bent out of shape, don't you think?

by spartacus on May 24, 2007 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think...
he's telling Boston fans to shut up.  Not you.  I tend to concur.  I mean, obviously Simmons is out there, and he's always going to have Celtics angles.  But isn't it strange that Andy Katz wrote a 'Celtics reaction' piece on ESPN, but nobody covered the Grizzlies reaction?  The Grizzlies had the worst record - isn't it more devastating for them to fall to 4?  

Obviously Boston has its history and its mystique, while Memphis is, well, Memphis.  But I also am a little tired of the Boston stories.

by Steve Perrin on May 24, 2007 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would hope so!
I'm certainly no Celtics fan, but living in Boston you get absolutely inundated with Boston-centric sports news/analysis/whining.  I do think it's interesting that the C's missing out on a top 2 pick is getting so much national coverage (even on PTI today), but I think on the ground here, Celtics fandom is definitely on the decline.  The Red Sox and the Patriots have a much wider fan base these days than they do just because they haven't been really competetive in so long.  I think the media is just being a tad bit overzealous in its coverage (east coast coverage bias?).  Sure, every Celtics fan is crying into their Guinness, but there are alot fewer of them around than when Heard was breaking their hearts years ago.

Personally, I can't wait to move back to good ol' Los Angeles.  

by spartacus on May 24, 2007 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry for the confusion Spartacus
I would never ask you to shut up my friend.

I grew up rooting for New York teams.  25 years of whining Boston sports fans.  

As they were winning sixteen NBA titles, it was not enough because of the Sox.  Now they have the Sox and Pats in the mix every year...but wah wah the Celtics are "cursed".  

Somehow I'm sure Bill Buckner is responsible for this draft travesty.

by mp on May 24, 2007 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing but love, good Citizen
Boston fans?  Whiners?  Surely you jest!  

The one thing I must say in defense of Boston sports fans is that they're passionate about their teams winning.  Is that because there's nothing to do in Boston but get drunk and watch sports?  You betcha.  But I do enjoy the fact that they hold the teams in their city to a winning standard, for the most part.  It's the "I only beat you because I love you defense," I know, but as a sports fan it's a part of the city's culture that I can appreciate, if not enjoy.

Of course fans in L.A. are more fickle just because we've got better shit to do and odds are it's not -10 degrees outside.  That's not Buckner's fault, though, that's Aaron Boone's doing.

by spartacus on May 24, 2007 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Worst thing that ever happened to Boston...
was the Sox winning in 04.  Completely took away their identity.  Now they have to make up reasons to be miserable.  

by mp on May 25, 2007 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

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