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Seems like you can't swing a dead cat without a hitting a new all star 7 footer in the Pacific Division.  I'm sure I'll have more to say on that later, but I have some other things to catch up on first.  

With all the Pau-mania around here, I have been neglecting the Clippers upcoming schedule.  It's too bad, because I've been working with bloggers from the Celtics and the Raptors on some fun Question and Answer sessions.

The fantastic Raptors blog HoopsAddict has my responses to their questions posted over there as of this morning.  As usual, I was brilliant.

But wait, there's more.  If you act now, you also get Kinnon's answers to my questions about the Raptors.

ClipperSteve: Should Jose Calderon have dressed up like a used car salesman in order to make it onto the Eastern Conference All Star team?

Kinnon:  OUCH.  That was harsh, but nice double shot at both Calderon and Bosh.  To be honest, I didn't see what was so funny about Chris' commercial.  It's not really unexpected coming from a guy like him, as he's pretty tech savvy and understands the power of the internet.  However, if you really want to check out his best work, I suggest looking at his podcasts, which are hilarious and show off his real personality.  I know it's hard, but you gotta do it.  Check it out!

As for Calderon, I was fairly sure he wasn't going to get a place in the lineup because the coaches don't really see the substance to his game.  He's just never going to make highlight reels, so he's not going to get noticed, which is how I think he wants to play it anyways.  Dwayne Wade's taking Hedo's spot, and Rip Hamilton is certainly taking Calderon's.

Here's proof enough:

ClipperSteve:  Is Anthony Parker the greatest Bradley Brave in the history of the NBA (careful, it's a trick question since Ralph Lawler, longtime Clipper announcer, also went to Bradley)?

Kinnon:  AP's the greatest ACTIVE Bradley Brave.  How's that for diplomatic?  Seriously, Anthony Parker is one of the best guards in the league if you factor defense into the equation.  Second most accurate from beyond the three point arc, great man-to-man defender, and a super sweet dunking machine of a sister, you just can't say anything bad about the guy.

ClipperSteve: Is it true that the Raptors intentionally schedule those early Sunday games to take advantage of teams visiting the Canadian Ballet Saturday night?  They pretty much always win those Sunday matinees.

Kinnon:  Actually, their record this year hasn't been too hot on those Sundays, so the Raptors might be going there with their wives too!  At three wins and four losses, it's been rough for the Raptors on Sundays.  Granted, they played Boston TWICE during those Sundays, but that's little consolation.

I think the real reason is because the writers like me want to bang out our articles and crash for the rest of the night with our families rather than watch a game late at night before going to work the next day.

Then again, how do you pass up this?

Thanks to Kinnon at HoopsAddict for putting this together. It was fun and I always like getting the insights of other bloggers. Next time I'm in Toronto Kinnon, let's get to the Ballet.

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You're a nice guy, CS.  It seems to me that you tossed this Kinnon guy some pretty easy questions that showed you have a solid basic understanding of the Raptors, while his questions were clueless at best, and obnoxious anti-Clipper hostile ignorance at worst.  We all know it when we see it.  "Miracle season" and "would Brand have made any difference" strike me as, "yeah we're in the East and will go to the playoffs but I know we wouldn't stand a chance in the West, but then you have the Clippers."  You kept your cool and were pretty funny too.

I would have gone for something like:  let's see, tell me how the Raptors would be doing if Bosh missed 50 games... and let's say Calderon did what he's doing now last year, and then in March his leg fell off--you think that might have affected your team at all?

It's interesting to look at the damage caused by last year.  Because it was so complicated and inexplicable (especially to the fan of another team), you see an overwhelming sense that 05-06 was a miracle season--in a year when the Clips were missing one of their leading scorers for most of the season.  And 06-07 was business as usual for the Clips, rather than an excrutiating conundrum.  But then when you look at the injuries and record in 07-08, you have to acknowledge that the Clips are just typically bad.  

by zhivclip on Feb 6, 2008 1:05 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No win situation...
The only way to win is to win.

Did you see Tim Legler's Western Conference report cards in a recent dime?  He gave the Kings and incomplete because of injuries while he gave the Clippers a D.  WTF?  I mean, what does that even mean?  It was pretty unfathomable.  Basically, as you say, everyone's expectation is that the Clippers are bad, so it is the playoff season that must be rationalized.  Everything else fits just fine.

As for the nature of the questions, I think one could look at it the other way as well.  He's asking some basic questions that let me rant and provide his readers with a base knowledge of the Clippers - who are probably the only team on National TV less than the Raptors.  My questions were on the snarky side - more fun to answer if you want to be snarky, but less fun if you want to educate the audience on hoops.  (The Celtics Q&A went more or less the same way.)  Different strokes.

by Steve Perrin on Feb 6, 2008 1:46 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fix the Clips
Change the name.

It won't be too long before tools like Legler get tired of trying to explain that the new team used to be the Clippers (or forgets himself) and has to adjust to the new "reality".

I destroyed him on an NBA fan forum thing about the TV personalities.  He'll never be forgiven for his terrible work during the Nuggets/Clippers series.

Basically, he's a guy that thrives on conventional wisdom, memes and platitudes and not on critical thought.  Those guys bug me in every medium.

It will be too bad to see the Clipsnation logo have to go out with the name change, though.

by John R on Feb 6, 2008 1:54 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sometimes conventional wisdom is right
One can always find ways to rationalize losing.  

Here's a suggestion - and I think Steve mentioned it to - stop complaining, rationalizing, lowering expectations, and just start winning.  

by Jax on Feb 6, 2008 2:04 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well shoot
If all anyone has to do is decide to do it, why didn't anyone think of that sooner?

by John R on Feb 6, 2008 2:09 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Back to Basics
zhivclip - My intention is not to disrupt this site or anything, but the question about Elton should be asked.  He's had one good year on a contending team so far, and that should make a lot of fans worried.  Yes, he's your best player, but he didn't do much for the Bulls and while his heart is certainly with the Clippers, last year definitely asked a lot of questions too.  Granted, you did lose Maggette for a lot of last season along with Livingston, and Cassell wasn't 100%, but you have to be able to factor injuries into your players.  At least, that's my own philosophy.  After all, we had plenty of years where Vince Carter was injured along with a plethora of other players.

It's important to note that we lost Garbajosa for the year, Bosh battled injuries during the first two months and TJ Ford was out for about two months already with two stingers, so it's not like we're injury free.  You could make the argument that we play in a weaker conference, but we've also beaten Dallas, Boston, Houston, and the Spurs without being at full capacity.

Steve - Thanks again for helping out.  We'll have to exchange again sometime.  And being snarky comes naturally for most Canadians ;)

by kinnonyee on Feb 6, 2008 2:17 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No worries
Much respect for the reply, Kinnonyee.  As a Raptors fan, you can probably understand what it's like to be sensitive and more than a little defensive.  And part of the problem is that since neither the Clips or the Raptors are media-friendly teams, we end up with a situation where I don't know much about the Raptors but will make assumptions, and you have no way of knowing much about the Clippers, and will make assumptions.  \

The problem is getting rid of pervasive, systemic negativity. The Clippers were mismanaged and a joke for so long, that's it's not surprising that the "hapless" tag and being a joke continues to stick to the team.  But the entire Clipper culture changed when Dunleavy arrived.  It took a few years to get there, but they were obviously highly competitive in the "miracle season" of 05-06.  They had their problems that year, and more than that in 06-7, and certain things are still very broken, injured, or problematic, but they're a completely different team from the semi-professional squad that dealt from the hip and gave good players away, flew blind, had one broken VCR to watch tape, and came up with elaborate schemes to barely squeeze over the minimum payroll.  Dunleavy changed everything.  He's far from perfect, but he turned the Clippers into a solid, competitive NBA franchise that plays in a major market.

And he did it on the back of Elton Brand, who joke owner DTSterling was happy to give a max deal.  You go all the way back to Chicago, where Brand was a teenager averaging 20 and 10 but unable to get a young team with no stars into the playoffs.  Believe me, if Chicago could have Brand back instead of Tyson Chandler or now old Ben Wallace, they'd take him in a heartbeat.  He's a certain type of player--Clipper Steve does a good job describing his value and what he does on the Boston response I think, explaining how losing Brand is a much bigger loss to the Clippers than the Wizards losing Arenas (or the Raptors losing VC).  Brand was always solid and did his share, but with Dunleavy's encouragement he got so much better in what you called his "good" season, adding new weapons, that he became truly one of the best players in the league.  Last year he was a part of the Clippers funk, but a very minor part of it.  He carried more than his share of the load, as always, but he wasn't transcendently good and couldn't do it by himself and make up for the team's shortcomings.  Kaman was shockingly lousy, Cassell was banged up, and Maggette--arguably the team's most talented scorer--was inexplicably on the bench.  It was an epic nightmare, and then it got worse when Livingston was hurt.  But Brand was never a question mark, never close to being the problem.

Just to correct the record, the Clips didn't "lose" Maggette for a lot of last season--that was the year before (the "miracle season").  Last year was ridiculously complicated--and exactly why and how are still a mystery.  The Brand injury this summer was devastating, but a few of us hoped that the Clippers would be good enough without him to hold the fort until he got back.  It looked like they had a shot, and the happy surprise of Kaman's outstanding, consistent play is the big silver lining of this year.  But without Brand (and Livingston) the Clips were unable to withstand an early season sequence of the little injuries that you mention are par for the course.

At any rate, from our perspective as Clipper fans, it would never occur to us to ask the question about Brand.  You can ask it about Livingston, Maggette, or Dunleavy all day long.  I understand where you're coming from, however, and can finish by mentioning that Clipfans are looking forward to EB's return in the next couple of weeks, and can't wait to see him play alongside Kaman.

         

by zhivclip on Feb 6, 2008 4:37 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Certainly..
Thank Zhivclip.  It's a part of the process of our cross blogging to educate others about the teams that we don't get to see that often.  From my own perspective, I haven't thought of the Clippers as a hapless team in quite a while, but I still don't know if the team is in the correct direction.

I was mistaken, but I thought Maggette was out for a part of last season when the Raptors were in town, but I could have been thinking about two years ago.  

In any case, I think Brand is a guy with a lot of talent, but I still am not sure if it's him, or just the management that's assembled the teams around him that have led to his lack of consistent post-season success.  It really comes to the GM to try and put a team that can play well together, and a lot of that is chemistry and really evaluating all aspects of a player.  I'm hoping that you guys turn it around, but in the West, it's going to take a lot of imagination and some luck to close that gap to even just make the playoffs.  

by kinnonyee on Feb 6, 2008 4:58 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Say Hey
There you go, Kinnon.  The generic Clippers gave the Raptors a pretty good shot, I must say.  A few thoughts, from the Clip perspective:

--That's Maggette.  He's been playing like that for three weeks, while having a nasty flu bug and missing games in the middle of that span.  For two weeks before that, he was playing at the level just below that (the 20-24ppg level, rather than 30-34ppg).  The question is, where were the outstanding/breakout games like this in the first 15 games of the season?  If he can stay healthy he should get even better as Brand comes back in two weeks, but he's not going to go 5-5 from 3 any time again soon.

--Say hello to Al Thornton.  The Raptors have breakout players in Moon and Calderon, so we don't have to worry about them.  Check out the Clips stats and look at how many minutes Tim Thomas (and Reuben Patterson) has played, then look at Thornton's numbers.  Thornton is a rookie (though he's 24--not quite as old as Moon) and he disappears at times, and on other nights he never gets his shots, but this is about the 5th or 6th time that he has answered the bell in the late rounds and come out punching.  He did it against Vince Carter, and killed him.  Taking on Bosh was surprising, and he did pretty well.

--That was Kaman 2.0 at about 75%, and he had some trouble with foul calls.  The Rapts didn't get to see Kaman at his best, but you could see how he can do more things than somebody like Rasho, and he hung in there and still made a few plays.  Throughout the early season he was beating everybody up the floor and just getting after it on every play, but he's not sharp right now, and his speed isn't quite back yet.

--No Cassell, which can have its own silver lining at times.  No Tim Thomas, which meant a clearer path for Thornton.  And Josh Powell is doing a nice job; we like him a lot.  I'll mention that there's no Paul Davis, and it may be that there never will be any Davis ever again.  Very little QRoss.  That's a deep Clipper conundrum, right there.  No Shaun Livingston, but he's traveling with the team and you probably could have watched him working out before the game, and your report would have been very valuable because nobody knows what's going on with him.

--And EB will be back after the all-star break.  He will make the team better.

by zhivclip on Feb 8, 2008 8:48 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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